It is now 5:50 PM EST. Zero hour for Martin Grossman minus 10 minutes. If an absolute נס נסתר occurs and he is still alive an hour from now I will bl"n delete this post. But, if as I predicted, he is gone I'd like to ask the Kharedi Press, J-Bloggers and s'tam cofee room or Mikva schmoozers; PLEASE spare us the posthumous encomiums.
If you want to continue debating death penalties or insanity pleas be my guest. If you'd like to praise or critique the frum and/or civil liberties communities for their actions or inactions...shkoyakh. But for the love of G-d don't fall into the trap of אחרי מות....קדושים-אמור. Please save praise and admiration for those who've earned it. To do otherwise devalues it when applied to the truly deserving.
It's hard enough to read fluff piece hagiographies that invariably make מלאכי עליון קדושים מרחם אמם out of rambunctious Jewish kids who grew up to, takkeh, be Gedolim and Tzadikim. But it's ekelhoftig to read the same about dysfunctional violent messed up Jewish kids who grew up to be ganovim and Rotzkhim.
Tuesday, February 16, 2010
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a nice letter in praise of the tzibur NOT the niftar A"H.
as if you have any clue to the "real" history of any gedolim?
im assuming you also dont believe that the rebbe who fasted forty years was born a kadosh?
welcome back dayon.
They were ALL born kedoshim. I'm not sure they all BEHAVED kedoshim.
BTW do you have any clue to the "real" history of the nisyonos and challenges of gedolim? Or. l'sheetoskha, do all gedolim attain their gadlus by heavenly decree?
You, as a khoknhom informed by unerring da'as Torah, do believe in bekheera khofshis no?
finally before jumping down my throat for the umpteenth time and , BTW, ignoring the thrust of the post entirely. Why not ask me what I meant by "hard enough"?
hey putz, before jumping down my throat, that wasnt me. i know you are shocked that there is someone else with disagrees with your crap. i'm too nauseated by the digital diarrhea in your past 2 execution posts, and cant even gather a few broken sentences to express my repulse.
DuM V'yodea
ps. Did you call, email or write the officials? or do you only save your best for us?
what the hell does da'as Torah have to do bekheera khofshis?
DuM
no, i do not plan on signing my name to every comment, as my style is unique and obvious.
did you ever hear ofראה הקב"ה שצדיקים מועטים עמד ושתלם בכל דור ודור?
or what aboutבְּטֶרֶם אֶצָּרְךָ בַבֶּטֶן יְדַעְתִּיךָ וּבְטֶרֶם תֵּצֵא מֵרֶחֶם הִקְדַּשְׁתִּיךָ?
do i know the real history?!!!!!???
do you?
to those outside teh eshiva world(yes including tzig and nb) you can still play the insider game bit for those of us who are in same yeshiva velt as you-we know quite well that you are relying on coffee room lore that you consider authentic to suit your "alternative" views
p.s. there i smore than one yodea here as im sure you picked up on
and with your warped juvenile view of neo-ishbitz would know nothing re bechira
dont equate the very few lucky post-war gedolim who were nichnas viyotze bishalom (from mekomos hatumeh), to true pre-war gadlus.
did you read this www.chabadbeaches.com/media/pdf/386/EQyf3868418.pdf bray? read it, and then pass your judgment, feh.
ps. Did you call, email or write the officials? or do you only save your best for us?
I signed the petition. Sent emails from 3 addresses (one bounced)and tried calling 3 times but got a busy signal.
did you ever hear ofראה הקב"ה שצדיקים מועטים עמד ושתלם בכל דור ודור?
sure. But I've also heard of רבש"ע טפה זו מה תהא עליה גבור או חלש חכם או טיפש עשיר או IOW it's a seif of the insoluble yedeeah bekhira dilemma. The tzadikim muatin could've ended up beinonim or reshoim.
to those outside teh eshiva world(yes including tzig and nb) you can still play the insider game Me? an insider compared to them? They know much more Yeshivisha and Khasidisha lore than I. As you neither blog nor am I a yodea of you I can't know how much you do or do not know but for the time being I'll take your word for it.
and with your warped juvenile view of neo-ishbitz would know nothing re bechira
Maskim. Would you like to email me ChaimG613@Gmail.com an exposition of a glatt, mature view of old-time Ishbitz to learn something of bekheera? I'd be very grateful and if allowed to post it many others would be too!
dont equate the very few lucky post-war gedolim who were nichnas viyotze bishalom (from mekomos hatumeh), to true pre-war gadlus.
Where/When/How did I do this? All I claimed (and despite your bikores continue to claim until you educate me, rather than just rant at me) is that Tzadikim, both pre and post war, work through nisyonos to become tzadikim. They are born with "higher neshomos" and the bar of their "bekhira points" are much higher at birth and in early youth than those of the non-Tzadikim. But if you ask me, to hold that they ultimately became what they were without mighty struggles is a far greater disrespect to them than to say otherwise.
O and BTW, what kind of talk is : very few lucky what has luck to do with it? Seyata D'shmaya? Absolutely, but "luck"?!?!?
p.s. there is more than one yodea here as im sure you picked up on
Here you flatter both me and yourself. Me, because I am VERY slow on the uptake, and yourself because despite ascribing a unique and inimitable style to yourself had you not made a fuss about it I would have thought every anonymous comment here was from the pen of Dayon U'Mokhiakh. I guess at screeching volumes tveeas eina d'kola disappears.
I will say this. I may be misvakayakh with you but I am not YOUR yodea. Which makes for a rather uneven playing field, no? If your sense of fair play prevails and you'd care to identify yourself please feel free to email me.
i'm too nauseated by the digital diarrhea in your past 2 execution posts,
I was takkeh wondering where you were. Although you claimed last week to "love me like a brother" I can't imagine that I can write anything at this point that would NOT arouse your anger and disgust. (what's your opinion on today's rather Parve post???) But I do wonder...what did you NOT like about the PSA post? Was that too, digital diarrhea?
did you read this www.chabadbeaches.com/media/pdf/386/EQyf3868418.pdf bray? read it, and then pass your judgment, feh.
WOW.. That's some assignment. Did you read all 26-31 pages? I don't know if I have the education to grasp all the technical,legal, medical and psychological jargon.
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